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Despite our best efforts we sometimes come up against questions for which we are having difficulty in finding answers. This page is published to seek the help of the family history community at large. Maybe we should seek guidance from the X Files as we are told "the truth is out there"! If you can help please contact the EYGS Secretary


CAN YOU HELP ME FIND HERBERT ROLAND SEYMOUR?

My great grandfather HERBERT SEYMOUR was born on 5h February 1858 at Cobbs Buildings, Holderness Road, Drypool, Hull. His father was HERBERT ROLAND SEYMOUR and his mother was ELIZA HADBURY. Herbert Roland Seymour was listed as a Master Mariner. It would appear that there are no records of these two people. Research has uncovered something that may be pure coincidence insofar as WILLIAM ROLAND married ANN HERBERT in LOFTUS in 1768. LOFTUS is in Cleveland just to the north of WHITBY, well known for maritime connections. Could this early marriage have anything to do with the choice of first names for the mysterious HERBERT ROLAND SEYMOUR? Please send any information to the EYGS HELP CO-ORDINATOR Posted on 16th August 2016.


CAN YOU HELP ME WITH IDENTIFYING MARY ANNE LAMB?

I am searching for information about my Gt.Grandmother MARY ANNE LAMB B.18-10-1845 at 16.South street,Bishopwearmouth,South sunderland,County Durham.On the 1851 CENSUS Mary is living with her parents HENRY and JANE LAMB,with 3 of her siblings.John 10 yrs,Margaret 8yrs,Ann1yr.Their residence is,25.Littlegate,Bishopwearmouth,Durham.Parish of St.Michaels. On 1861 CENSUS MARY ANNE LAMB is now 15 yrs old,residing at 195.Newhope Street,S.Sunderland,Bishopwearmouth.Still with her parents,and 4 siblings. In 1865 MARY ANNE is 19 yrs has given birth to my Grandmother Mary Jane Lamb 20-08-1865 19,Homs Lane West Sunderland County Durham,out of wedlock,father unknown. On 1871 CENSUS,Mary Jane lamb,(my Grandmother) 6yrs old is residing with her Grandparents Henry and Jane Lamb,at 24 Zion Street,Bishopwearmouth,in the Parish of St.Thomas.No sign of MARY ANN LAMB. I question the Romantic story given to me from my family,they say MARY ANN LAMB was a dressmaker,also a maid to the Lady-in-waiting to QUEEN VICTORIA.Lamb is as common as Smith in the North east of England,making it difficult to trace my Gt.Grandmother.I am lucky to have a picture of her. Does anyone have a connection to my ancestor MARY ANNE LAMB?If so please contact the EYGS webmaster


DO YOU HAVE ANY INFORMATION ON HENRY HAYFIELD?

I have had difficulty in tracing my Grandfather, Henry Hayfield. He died in 1935 in Bedfordshire after losing his wife in 1918. My mother was their only child, and to the best of my recognition, never spoke of them, as she was brought up by her Grandmother. I have now found that he was born in Wheatley in 1883 to a single parent, Mary Hayfield. She had a second child, Kate in 1887, and there is reference to a court case for child support in the Oxford journal on 8th September 1888 against a Hugh Summers. In the December Quarter of 1888, Mary married Richard Clements, born 1865. The 1891 census shows the family with Henry and Kate and introduces a new child, James. In 1901, four more children are shown in the census including William , born 1901. My researches indicate that Richard died later in 1901 and 10 years later in the 1911 census, William is shown as a stepson, Mary having married again in 1910 to Thomas Hutton. They lived at Forrest Hill with Shotover, Wheatley. I have found a William Clements who married Elizabeth Hillsden in 1927, with the birth of William J.R. Clements in 1928.There are several William Clements registered in the area , and therefore, my investigations are becoming cloudy. I currently await the receipt of a marriage certificate which I have ordered in an attempt to clear the confusion. My Grandfather moved to Bedfordshire and shows up on the 1911 census to marry in 1913. My mother was born in 1915. Mary Hutton lived on until 1940 and I think she was not aware of the passing of her son 5 years previously. So, I have a few distant Clements relatives hence this plea for help. Please direct any replies to webmaster @ eygs.org.uk Thank you in anticipation. Tony Mann April 2015


Can you help PAUL BAXTER?

Frederick Joseph Fairfield married Ann Smith on 9 November 1830 at Holy Trinity, Hull, and was buried there on 23 April 1856. On the 1841 census, he is shown as being born in Drypool, Hull, circa 1809, and was a brewer’s labourer. His children were Sarah Jane, Frederick, Samuel, Mary Ann and Joseph. I can find no trace of his baptism in any of the Hull churches. If anyone can help, please contact the EYGS Secretary

Thank you Paul Baxter. Posted on 16th April 2015.


Assistance sought to locate the BULMER family from Holme on Spalding Moor

I am trying to trace my ancestors who lived in the Holme on Spalding Moor area in the early 1800s. I have traced as far back as the birth of Thomas Bulmer in Holme on Spalding Poor House in 1816. He was the illegitimate son of Ann Bulmer but unfortunately I can find no records for Ann other than the baptism a year later. I have been unable to trace any records for the poor house or its residents, or parish relief records. Heather Haigh. This query was placed on 13th November 2012.


The Bright family

We have tried to sort out the work of the BRIGHT family who were domiciled in Hull at the turn of the twentieth century. The family was headed up by George Ignatius Penderel BRIGHT born 1856 in Wednesbury, Staffordshire. By 1895 they had moved to Hutt Street in the Spring Bank area of Hull. George had been a practising solicitor, but was now to try his hand at selling cash registers. By 1902 the family had moved to Woodford in Essex.

The basic four questions we asked were:

1. Where did George Bright actually work from 1895 until he became the unsuccessful sales agent for NCR cash registers in 1901? He MAY have worked in the Hull Brewery but that is pure speculation simply because his in-laws, The Emery family, were closely associated with Inde Coope and Allsopp, the brewers in Burton-on-Trent.

2. Where did the Bright children go to school - presumably, as Catholics, they attended Catholic schools near to Hutt Street?

3. Did George Penderel Bright jnr, who is mentioned in the 1901 census as Clerk C.C., actually work for the Hull City Council?

4. Does anyone know what happened to Emma Sleet the family maid-servant referred to in the 1901 census as "mainly sick nurse"?

Because of George's previous occupation as a solicitor and a tenuous link to the Hull Charterhouse then it may be that there was some mention of the BRIGHT family in their records.

If you can help with any of this please contact the EYGS webmaster


The Thompson family - Query from down under

Am trying to sort out some family mysteries. Thomas Thompson was born in Newcastle in 1826 and married Mary Ann Backhouse in Hull in 1851. They had nine children between 1854 and 1872, including Mary (married organ builder Layton), Thomas (went to USA?), George (married Eliza Hunter and had children Lowish, Letty, Grace, Hilda), and Charles (married Lottie Richardson and had children Grace, Lottie, Edith –Humber pilot at Grimsby). Mary T died Hull in 1917 aged 87.

Family lived in Regent St, Hull. TTsnr was a ship’s captain on foreign runs from Scotland and East coast England and supposedly died at sea in 1891 but can’t find any records. Seeking further family information.

If you can help in any way please contact Ron Layton


Looking for details on the HULL family from England

I live in Maryland, USA, and am researching my ancestors who emigrated from England to Newfoundland, where my parents were born. I would appreciate any information you may have on families with the surname "HULL." My HULL family tree of Newfoundlanders is quite large, and I shall be glad to share with your subscribers who are interested.

If you can help in any way please contact Cecil Hale (Jack) Hull


Is anyone related to this branch of the WILSON family from Holderness?

  • Isaac Wilson was baptised at Skirlaugh in 1784.
  • His father was John Wilson.
  • Isaac Wilson married Bessie Dixon in Skirlaugh in 1806.
  • They had the following children: Sarah 1807 Skirlaugh, Francis 1809 Hull, William 1810 Hull, Betsey 1813 Hull, George 1814 Hull and Christiana 1817 Hull.
  • Isaac and Bessie Wilson moved to London pre 1851. Their adult children remained in Hull.
  • Isaac Wilson was a tailor.
  • According to the 1851 census, Isaac Wilson says he came from Swine.
  • His son George, born 1814, emigrated to Australia in 1828 on the ship belonging to his uncle, Francis Dixon.
  • This family are probably linked to Joseph Wilson, born 1745, and John Wilson, born 1746, at Swine.
  • We are mainly interested in children born to John Wilson between 1774 and 1780. Was there a William, Thomas or James?
  • If you can help in any way please contact the EYGS Secretary


    So how many Brits made it to be a Sheriff in the USA?

    Well we know of one and we could do with a little help on him.
    Sheriff The Sheriff's ladies
    Do you know this man? or this Crowell family?
    He was ARTHUR PICKARD born in Leeds, Yorkshire, England in 1866.

    He emigrated to the USA around 1883 and became a US citizen in 1888. Around 1889 he married CORA CROWELL in New York state.
    They had three children RAYMOND born June 1890, HAZEL born April 1892 and REGINALD born July 1899.
    In the Federal Census of 1920 ARTHUR is shown to be Sheriff of UTICA city jail in ONEIDA county in NEW YORK state. 33 prisoners were listed in the jail at that time.

    Apart from obvious questions about members of this family, we would also like to know what qualifications were necessary to become a US sheriff? Arthur's previous jobs included Shipping Clerk in 1900 and Book Keeper (Wholesalers) in 1910.

    How common was it for persons of foreign birth to assume such positions in the USA? Maybe Pickard (pretty close to Jean Luc) had Earp ancestry!

    Comments please to EYGS Webmaster


    What do you know about EMILY CRUSHER?

    Emily Crusher was my husband's grandmother. The story goes that she left her husband and small son, Robert Francis (Frank) born 27 February 1904, for a gardener from Warter Priory and moved to Hull. My father in law wouldn't talk about it at all but my mother in law once said that she had written when Frank was 21 and again when he married in 1932. A non relative told me years ago that Emily did, once at least, visit her parents / mother at Burnby, bringing with her her daughter. Frank did meet her there. How I wish that I had questioned this lady more - another lost opportunity! The only other news we have of her is in her father's will, he died in 1923. The will named her as Emily Crusher and she had to have her legacy on his death. the other children would have to wait until his wife died. Why was this? Perhaps Emily was in need of money or perhaps he thought she would be denied it when he had died. We have no idea whether there was ever a divorce or did she just change her name? We have so far found no trace. Does anyone reading this have any ideas or fresh leads
    or contact EYGS Secretary


    Can you help with the PINCHON family?

    My g.grandfather was William Glenford Pinchon,master mariner,m.in Hull in 1849 and lived in Porter Street and Wilberforce Street.d.Hull 1894. My grandfather,Arthur Glenford Pinchon,b.1860 left Hull about 1895 and moved to London. He had eight siblings including William Henry Pinchon,master mariner,b.1856.d.1927 and lived at one time at Stepney Lodge,Stepney Lane and Harold Brown Pinchon,master mariner,b.1864 I would be very grateful for any information about what happened to the family and to discover if I have any living relatives.

    Initial contact please either 02380 769204 or David.G.Pinchon, 25 Bassett Green Drive, Southampton SO16 3QF
    or contact EYGS Secretary


    The Shepherds Who Came in from the Sea

    Joyce Shepherd writes from Urunga in New South Wales, Australia. She has spent many years trying to locate her ancestor, William Shepherd who married Margaret Richardson on 24th January 1794 in Ostend, Belgium. She is hoping that this marriage produced a son, George, and a grandson Henry. This is largely conjecture on her part, she admits, but she needs help with the supposed arrival of the Shepherd family into South Australia.

    She confesses to two family legends which have influenced her search. One, from Henry's grandson, is that Henry was either Belgian or Prussian. He could have carried the name Heinrich Schaeffer in Europe. Exhaustive searches in Belgium have been frustrated by the fact that many records were destroyed, in that country, during World War II. Henry, aka Heinrich, together with his father George and another brother were all involved in ship building. They emigrated to South Australia in the middle of the nineteenth century. Upon arrival the family appears to have broken up.

    The other legend, this from Henry's son William, indicates that George owned a shipyard in Belgium. The family built themselves a boat and they all sailed off to a new life in South Australia. Again they separated upon arrival.

    Has anyone ever come across a story like this? We realise it is less than perfect but there is often "no smoke without fire". If you have a theory, we are certain Joyce would love to hear it.

    Please contact EYGS Secretary



    The Hunt for the Lost Emigrant

    Richard Dale and Ann West left Newbald, East Yorkshire, and arrived in Canada in 1819. They had four children, Joseph (born 1810), Mary, Bessie and David. Despite searching the parish records for Newbald and the surrounding villages for Richard and Ann's marriage, nothing has been found to date. It is believed that Ann's father was William West. Any information concerning the family would be appreciated.

    Please contact Les Dale - British Columbia, Canada.


    The Case of the "Turned Up Stone"

    JS1841
    The gravestone of one John Scaife
    who died in March 1819 aged 49 years.
    Did he come from Brantingham?
    A couple of years ago a strange thing happened. Following a phone call, and subsequent visit, I became the guardian of fragments of a tombstone (as you do)!

    The stone had been in the garden of the "Red House" at Wharram le Street in the East Riding of Yorkshire. The Red House once served tea and coffee to travellers using the B1248 road between Beverley and Malton. The stone formed part of a rose arbor in the garden some 10 or more years ago.

    The house then underwent redevelopment and conversion into a number of smaller properties and the stone became surplus to requirements I guess.

    Do you know anything about this stone? Do you know where its rightful place should be? My theory is that it could relate to John Scaife who was christened in Brantingham in 1771. Wharram le Street is 30 miles north of Brantingham and whilst it does have its own churchyard, there are no Scaifes recorded there. We don't have the time to do a full search of all East Riding burial registers to see where John of Brantingham perhaps ended up.

    Until we do have that time do YOU know anything that can help.

    Please contact EYGS Webmaster


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